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breakdown. >> you know him as a judge on top chef. what you don't see is this man. whose passion from food has taken him in a different direction. >> people are struggling to put food on the table night after night. that is insecurity. >> food insecurity is a condition affecting 50 million americans. including 17 million children. people living on less than $5 a day. that is not much more than the cost of one oyster at his restaurant. it is hidden in plain sight. >> it doesn't look like what hunger looks like. it is hidden in plain sight. that was part of the reason why
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this film needed to be made. >> we think of hunger as a swell l swollen belly. hunger in this country is the position ofbrate anxiety and fear because you don't know how you are going to feed your kids. >> the 50-year-old celebrity chef and his wife are sounding the alarm with their new documentary, "a place at the table". they are not sure they are going to eat on any given day. the target audience for the film, lawmakers. the team say are failing america. >> tell them to fix this. fix this. >> do you think they can? >> your optimism is amazing. when we look at washington, they can't deal with the sequester and gun control, taxes. >> well, i'm hoping someone will
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want this. and yet if we are going to fix this problem, that may happen. >> it opens on friday and anderson cooper 360 starts now. >> good evening. tonight abuse victim or predator, the many faces of jodi arias. it is amazing how long she has been on the stand. later on the trial of fugitive mexican priest, he came to los angeles an alleged serial rapist and get this, the man who helped him ascape justice. do something so that no parent
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has to walk past an empty room. >> jesse and 19 other children killed. today the senate heard testimony on stopping the next newtown. they heard from kneneil hesslan himself. ordinary moments between the father and son the kind they take for granted because you assume there will be many, many more. >> good morning. december 14th he stopped at the deli and got his favorite sandwich sausage egg and cheese on a hard roll and ordered me one. he would always do that. i would get a coffee and he would get what he called a coffee, but it was a hot cho
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chocola chocolate. we proceeded to the school it was 9:04 when i dropped jesse off. he gave me a hug and a kiss at that time and said good-bye and i love you. he stopped and said i love mom too. that was the last i saw of jesse as he ducked around the corner. priv to th prior to that when he was getting out of the truck he hugged me and held me and i can still feel that hug and the pat on the back. he said everything will be okay dad. it will all be okay. and it wasn't okay. >> it certainly was not okay. lawmakers now seem to be at odds on how to prevent another
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massacre. and there was a fierce argument today between milwaukee police chief and south carolina republican senator lindsey graham. 44 people are prosecuted what kind of deterent is that? i mean the law is not seeing that as important if it is such an important issue why aren't we prosecuting people who fail a background check there are 15 questions there. i'm frutruss tra frustrated tha thing and in the real world we do nothing. >> it doesn't matter. it is a paper thing. i want to stop 76 -- i want to
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finish the answer. i want to stop 76,000 people from buy iing people from buyin guns illegally. >> i want to turn back to the personal. neil hessling who joins us tonight. >> you spoke today about your last moments with your son. as you think back to that day what memory sticks out to you the most? >> the most touching was when he got out of the truck and unbuckled his seatbelt and embraced me and was patting me on the back and was holding me. >> why is it so important for you to have been in washington today and testify and speak about gun control and your son? >> well, i just feel that it is
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something i have to do. i feel i'm his voice and i feel there has to think chabe change be effective. >> you talked today about changes in mental health laws and background checks and gun control legislation and high capacity magazines one or all of these things to be acted upon? >> i think any changes is going to help. but i think for it to be um significant change and they all have to take place what happened in sandy hook elementary there were many factors that lead to that. the main cause was an assault style weapon that was carried out in the massacre out.
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the main component of that was the high capacity magazine. >> how difficult is it for you to enter this for the public arena. the issues around this are contentious and the sides are firmly drawn and there are emotions on both sides. as somebody who is undergoing grief and still in the middle of this and will be for the rest of your life really, how is it -- how difficult is it to enter the public arena? >> if i didn't speak up and try to make a change i would feel that i was letting my son down. but it is hardest and the worst day of my life was the day i lost my son yjesse december 14t. >> your son was six and a half. and after listening to your
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testimony today i felt like i got to know him a little bit. and i was thankful for that. is there something you want people to know about him tonight? >> if you met him once you, you would never forget him. he was a very strong force, very friendly. child he was wise beyond this years. he cared about everybody. went out of his way to help and animals and care for them. and people. he was always putting other people before himself and tried to help him and i remember so many times when he would hear a baby cry, he would run over and try to cheer the baby up. and whether it was with keys or
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standing on his head or -- um, just was a wonderful wonderful person. he was my best friend and my buddy. >> stay strong, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> hard to imagine. let us know what you think. next we are going to take you to rome for pope benedict's finale. the power he may still wield mind the scenes. later, who is the real jodi arias. the prosecution pryi itrying to her as a willing partner in consensual acts. still ahead.
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urks welcome back. it isn't often the pope says farewell. that is what happened today. there is that and that is plenty but there is also the pomp and imagine stay that no one alive
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has ever scene before. [ applause ] >> to have seen more than 150,000 believers, the pope made history. in an unusual and personal public address. and unprecedented moment in modern times. not for 600 years has a pontiff voluntarily relink kwished his post. today he tried to explain why. >> i asked got to help me make the right decision for the good of the church.
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i have taken the step with a deep peace of mind. >> back in 2005. the oldest pope in 275 years. dedicated adhere ant to dogma he liked prada and playing the piano. leaving behind a legacy of returning the church to a more conservative path. in fact he acknowledged it in his final address. the lord has given us sunshine and light breeze and there was also times when the water was rough and the wind and the lord seemed to sleep. >> the pope said he assured god would not let the church sink. he can be called his holiness
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pope benedict the xvi. experts say he will never be seen again. the red shoes gone and the office and his personal seal will be destroyed. for today the focus was on this servant of god. who said the pope is never alone and now i experience it in the way that touches the heart. >> i spoke with kristian ammanpor he seemed to be making reference to the corruption that plagued and continued to plague the church. >> and the pope spoke about so many of the challenges that continue to face the church. but yes, these scandals that
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have rocked the church and the vatican and almost every diocese in the united states i might add over the last 12 to 14 years. he was saying that this has been shocking and stormy waters that the church has seemed to be flying against the wind. he went onto say that he wouldn't allow the church to sing. >> he made no direct mention of the child abuse scandals which i imagine for some people would not be enough. >> well it was unlikely that he was going to bring it up on this day. but you are right. there are some many people in the united states that have so much unfinished business and we have been talking to cardinals
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and they know that while the pope has talked about zero tolerance that they know that abusers have been criticized and singled out while those have been abused and have been apologized to and met by the pope that there is a lot of unfinished business p by those who shielded priests who shielded young boys in the churches. even those know that the next pope must finish this business and must institute the reform that will bring full transparency and accountability. >> you were there when the pope was elected. ip w what did people make of his remarks? >> well look. people came out. anderson. there was nothing like the kind of crowds we thought we saw when
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pope john paul died. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics but he is considered more of an intellectual and somebody who is never emotional like john paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the first formal meeting will happen on monday. only then will they decide what day to establish the conclaf and
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then they will start their secret deliberations. we are told around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> all week we have been focusing on the controversy in cardinal mahoney's role in electing of the new pope. he has been stripped after thousands of pages revealed his role in shielding priests from justice. the nauseating story from 360's gary tuckman. >> reporter: the first time is when he helped bring them to the ashch diocese of los angeles. the ashch bishop of mexico city wanted him gone because of his quote homosexual problem. those are the allegations of
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lawyers who questioned him in a deposition. allegations that he has denied. lay lawyers say even with that knowledge he agreed to bring him for lost ang. and it didn't take long for him to begin ter rising children. >> back then there were 26 victim. >> former lapd detective worked on this case for more than 20 years. >> back in january 11th, 1988, around 8:30 in the morning we got a call at the police radio and we were directed to go to this particular school in east la. >> they arrived to find four children who said they were molested. >> it was horrible. because what the kids were
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telling us. >> but he never had a chance to question aguilar. >> we went to interview the priest and they told us he was no longer here, he is gone he was taken to mexico. >> he had indeed gone to mexico. and how did he know the police were on their way? recently released church files reveal he was tipped off by the cardinal. >> if we had our hands on him, yeah, he would have been detained. >> later, more abuse charges surfaced. 19 counts of lewd acts against a child. >> aguilar landed back in mexico city. even after all of the charges were filed against him he was still an active priest.
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he worked in a mexican church and the accusations continued. journalists interviewed many who said they were abused by him and she interviewed him. >> you talked to him on the phone. >> yes, i did. >> how did you feel? >> both angry and excited. i said i can't believe he is talking with me. >> he denied the accusations n gentlem. >> five formal complaints have been filed against him since his return in 1988. authorities tell us they have lost his trail. we decided to look for him ourselves. and got a lead that he was last sce seen in the talk two hours south
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of mexico city. yes, you do. you recognize him. >> yes, i have seen him twice. >> amiliano a local farmer takes us to a bus stop where he recently saw aguilar. >> yes, i have seen him. >> at the bus stop we meet a woman who tells us she sees him regularly. >> she has no idea of his past. >> i saw him on the bus and he said i should take care of my baby that was all. >> she shows us where he gets off the bus. >> unfort fantly once in the neighborhood the people say they don't know him and our trail runs cold. >> back in most co city. the spokensman for the
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archdiocese says the church has no further resonsabiliponsibili him. >> here in mexico city we have no victims. i'm not saying he may not have done things because we have the impression that he did. the church has done what it needed to do. it suspended him. he is no longer a priest. >> but they didn't defrock him until 2009. he said it is not the church's job to hunt down suspect. >> this is a job for the police. >> do you think that one day he will be arrested here or in mexico? >> i don't think so. >> gary tuckman, cnn. >> unbelievable. just ahead. congress is running out of time
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to do something about the spending cuts that go into effect at midnight. >> jodi arias murder trial. prosecutors say the text messages paint a different picture. the latest from the trial ahead. of odor causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains. that's why i recommend polident. [ male announcer ] cleaner, fresher, brighter every day. [ male announcer ] we all have something neatly tucked away in the back of our mind. a secret hope. that thing we've always wanted to do. it's not about having dreams, it's about reaching them. ♪ an ally for real possibilities. aarp. find tools and direction at aarp.org/possibilities.
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welcome back. midnight on friday is getting close. that of course is when $85 billion in automatic federal spending cuts will trilg gger a the blame game is still alive and well in washington. today continued listen. >> under the constitution, the president is commander in chief and employs the force. and so we now have the president going out because of this piece
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of paper and agreement i can't do what i need to do to protect the country that is a madness that i haven't seen in a long time. >> he has been calling out the administration for a long time. short time ago in the situation room he doubled down on that charge. he said the white house has pushed back hard in response to what he wrote. >> it was said to me, very clearly, you will regret doing this. >> who sent that to you? >> well, i'm not going to say. >> what it a senior person at the white house? >> a very senior person. >> david, it boggles the mind and here we are facing the crisis and the meeting isn't
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taking place until friday. >> the media is very strange. americans are turned off and tuned out. they understand that there are important issues at stake here but they are saying look, why can't both these side ez get together. that is what we thought we voted for. i cannot remember a time when we have seemed so leaderless. nobody is stepping up. okay guys, this is serious. the country could suffer here. >> do you buy that it is a crisis? now you have the white house seeming to go into over drive. the attorney general talking about it i want to play what he said. >> there are not going to be as many fbi agents, dea agents they are going to be furloughed. >> you have members of the
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republican party saying that it is going to be smoke and mirrors. >> this is something that is going to have an impact an the safety of this country. anybody that says that is not true is lying or saying that it is contrary to the facts. >> most americans don't buy that. >> i think this is fear mongering. it is scare thank tiactics. it is fair to say. by taking 5% away from those budgets that ar mageddon is on us. give the president the flexibility to figure out where it makes sense to tighten and be smart about the cuts. we don't want to undermine the functi functioning. >> here are the two problems. when you say give the
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administration the flexibility. you are taking them to take the pound of flesh for you. >> that is a different issue. >> but the other part is, this is the biggest problem with the fear mongering crying wolf issue. >> here it is. the biggest part the problem with the argument. at this point something is going to happen. >> the biggest -- the person who has the most to lose if they are in fact crying wolf is the white house. if nothing happens and the white house has said all of this is going to happen. >> no, i don't think they are crying wolf. i think they are allowing cuts to go on and that is painful. it was this white house that proposed this bill with the ridge itity built into it. it is going to shut down the airline travel. it is going to shut down the
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inspectors. we have to keep an irpoairport because of the tiny cuts. to minimize the negative impact you can find other ways to make these cuts. we don't want people to get complacent about the budget cuts. the role of the president is to protect the people. >> you can shift the blame and burden of the $85 billion in cuts onto the president and have him make those cuts in the next 7 months and think that he is going to be able to do that in an easy way? >> charles, nobody -- i think there will be some pain. i'm saying don't you have an obligation? we don't know that. there is a lot of pain that
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don't need to be made. >> everybody agrees. >> the white house is trying to purt americ hurt americans so they can make their point. >> the democrats are willing to make this built go forward. so they keep the people working at the airports. >> it sounds like you are saying that the white house is trying to inflict pain to make a point. >> i'm saying that i think they are willing to have the washington monument syndrome. they close down the monument because they know they are foeing to be screams. >> they are letting it develop here when they should say we would like the flexibility to minimize the proposals. it seems to be in the meantime
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why put the country through the ringer? >> i think now the blame is shared on this one. i think the democrats and the president deserve as much blame as the republicans do on this one and they have the responsibility on this one. i think one of the reasons the stock market is saying that most people assume that they would come to an agreement. people suffer unnecessarily. because, people we entrust with enormous amounts of power. and the republicans, they are acting irresponsibility. they are not acting like grown ups. >> good discussion. thank you. jodi arias back on the stand today. her testimony today focused on
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in crime and punishment tonight, jodi arias, back on the stand. she has admitted that she killed her ex-boyfriend in 2008 even though she lied about it for a long time. she first denied he was even there and then blamed the murder on an intruder and now says it was self defense.
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she could get the death penalty if convicted. so much of the trial has been focused on their sexual relations. today the testimony has been mired in we warn you the testimony is pretty graphic. >> jodi arias had a nickname for travis alexander. she told the court she liked to call him hotty bbiscotti. why did she should him then? she seemed to be enjoying the relationship especially their sex life? that enjoyment strongly contradicts her testimony that
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travis alexander abused her and made her feel like a prostitute. >> one of the other thing that is we know from that conversation in terms of your blossoming is that you discussed making a movie right? >> yes. >> and you discussed making a sexual movie right? >> yes. >> and it wasn't that you told him no. you actually were into it as much as he was right? >> yes. >> the couple's text messages were shown in court.
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in one text she suggested she wanted to dress up and more. >> it indicates that it is you that is the person that likes this sort of activity and looking like a horny little school girl right? >> yes. >> it is no secret that she hasn't been forth coming with the truth. about what happened the night she killed him. she said she wasn't at the house that night and then telling an investigator and reporter from "48 hours" that it was a mass intruder. clips were played in court. including this part. >> at that point i just -- i just ran. i pushed right past him and i flew down the stairs and it was like i wasn't in my body. i tried not to stumble down the
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stairs and i got in the car and left. >> and that is another version of the events that occurred on june 4th, 2008 correct? >> yes. >> and they are not true? >> neither of them. >> well, it is all the same thing, i couldn't keep my life straight. >> and in court she was asked about a call she made days after she killed him. on that recorded call she lied again playing dumb about how he was killed even though she knew she had staped him and shot him.
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>> what is the story with the gun? where did she get it do we know? >> anderson, she says she got the gun from his closet that it was his gun but the state says he didn't have a gun. she believe she stole that gun from her grandparent's home days before the murder. today they focused on the rent al car days before the murder. they say this speaks to premeditation. she said she told the company that she didn't want to rent a red car because it attracts police. and finally, they said that she flipped her back license plate on that car upside down so if anybody spotted her at the scene they wouldn't be able to make out that car at the back.
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>> joining me now jeffrey tubin. and mark geragos. when you look at the photographs at her before the killing, i mean she's blond, sort of looks comimmediately different and now on the stand she looks sort of demure. is that conscious? >> you have heard of a makeover this is a makeunder. she has his mousey glasses she has the conservative glasses and her hair is shoulder length. defense attorneys care a great deal about the appearance of their xhint clients on the witness stand. the jury will almost recognize that they are trying to sell a different jodi arias.
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>> you know it is kind of a given that if you have somebody who is extremely attractive as a female. they have done studies on it. female jurors are very turned off to that. and that is in the analysis. >> as a defense attorney you know. >> yeah, jeff calls it a make makeunder i call it the frump look. that is on purpose. >> in her testimony she is always looking at the jury. >> if you watch a good law enforcement type when they tef. they do that. they talk into the eyes of the lawyer. but when the defense lawyer is questioning them they talk to the jury. >> we always taught law enforcement to speak to the jury in cross-examination.
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to establish a repore and to make the sujury feel like they e part of the trial. >> this is -- we are going back to last night. i was talking about i thought the prosecutor was over the top. you have one audience here. even though this is gaining traction on cable tv and elsewhere. the audience is the jury. and that is who you are playing to. you want to make sure that your witnesses are bonding with them and you are not turning them off. that is why i was so adamant about it. >> i thought he could turn the jury off. >> today he dialed it back. very effective stuff. this business about the gas cans i thought was quite devastating. why in the world when you are driving from california to
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arizona do you fill up your car and fill up these cans to take with you other than to avoid buying gasoline to prove that you weren't there. i thought that was powerful stuff. >> he is a remarkably different today than he was yesterday. yesterday he was over the top and if he just got in there, less is more a lot of times and i counsel lawyers on this all the time. you don't have to sit there and beat the hell out of them. talk about the cans and the gun. >> you don't need to be scatter shot and in there for a lengthy period of time. get in there and get out. >> i don't want a noticeable car. >> i mean this is a woman if you believe the prosecution theory
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who was planning for a long time to kill this guy. yeah. >> and you are starting today to paint a picture of somebody who is diabolical. and if they want a death penalty and there are thing that is they have to go through and hoops. that is what you have to do. you have to get the jury to do it. >> do you day-by-day try to assess what jurors may be thinking? >> hour by hour and minute by minute. >> do you look at that juror? >> always i say the most fascinating thing about a jury trial is that kind of jury analysis in realtime. you have the client speak to the jurors directly? >> yes. what happens is it isn't the 12 you are looking for the person who is going to drive that jury. you don't need that if you are the defense.
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you need one juror to say no death penalty and that part of the case is over. >> we are going to talk about that at 10:00 tonight. >> who is your co-host. >> nancy grace. >> killer testimony at 10:00 eastern an hour and ten minutes from now. a girl was born male and identifies as female. also a great white shark was caught on tape. what we are learning now about this rare attack. we will be right back. textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing.
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welcome back. let's get you caught up on some other stories we are following. >> reporter: chuck heigl took the oath today. his confirmation battle now a think of the past. parents of a colorado first grader are taking their battle public. school officials banned corey mathis from using the girl's bathroom. officials believed they acted reasonably and fairly. that shark killed a swimmer off new see land's coast. the shark was 12 to 14 feet
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tonight beer officials are taking a stand. alleging that anheuser busch is watering down it's beer to save